An exclusive interview with Jessica Warner-Judd after the race of her life in Budapest

By her own admission, Jessica Warner-Judd is not very good when it comes to rest days. Even in the 48 hours which immediately followed her top-eight finish in the womens 10,000m final at the World Championships, she didnt need her arm twisted very far to join some of her fellow British team-mates as they stretched their legs around Budapest. I love to run and I love to chat, she laughs. 

Part of her also simply wanted relive the race of her life. In my mind, I could hear the bell Again, there is a hearty chuckle to accompany those last remarks. With the 28-year-old, a wide smile is never far away. With some athletes, youre never entirely sure what youre going to get during post-race interviews. With Warner-Judd, whether its at a major championships or the mud-caked cross country courses at which she can regularly be found, almost always there is a sense of unbridled joy that she is in the position to race competitively at all. 

According to the athlete herself, though, that is not always the case. She does indeed adore her sport and has done ever since she started out in it as a 10-year-old but only now is she starting to give herself a little bit of credit. 

I think Im very pessimistic, she says. Its funny, after races I think I can come across like its great. I love life. But before [races] Im awful.

In championships gone by and Warner-Judd has seen a few since competing in her first World Championships as a teenager in the 800m, 10 years ago she admits to experiencing a sense of isolation. This time, however, the process has felt far more collaborative. 

In St Moritz [at the pre-championships holding camp] I had a good session and I said to [UK Athletics head of endurance] Steve Vernon: Was that good? and he said: What are you on about? Of course it was good!.

Further confirmation came from British 1500m champion and world finalist Katie Snowden.

Katie was like: That was an impressive session, you need to build yourself up more, adds Warner-Judd. And I was like: No, I think other people could do it better. I always have those doubts. I think Ive always thought of it like them and then me. In the race Ill feel like: There are the top ones and then theres me, just try not to get lapped or come last.

I think thats where its changed this year. I was like: Maybe people are right, maybe I can do something in this final.

Its just surrounding yourself with the right people. As runners, we do think its very individual and you think because its just me out there its all on me. But its not. 

Before it used to just be me and my little team. My dads my coach and my husband is my only training partner and we used to pride ourselves on it being: Its just us, well do it.

But its nice to get confirmation from others or ask other peoples opinion to get help. 

Normally, if you werent on funding that was it, it was kind of like youre on your own, good luck. Hope it works out but it has changed so I think thats definitely built my confidence.

This was Warner-Judds fifth World Championships, while there have been two European Championships campaigns, as well as three Commonwealth Games. Thats before you take into account the many British teams she has helped to European Cross Country success, or the European Team Championships of 2013 where she herself struck 800m gold. That was the same year in which she also first experienced the World Championships, in Moscow. 

I think in 2013 I was like: Thats it. Ive arrived, Ive made it, she says. But in 2015 I didnt make the World Champs. I was pretty unfit, Id gone to uni and I think I needed a bit of time to just be a student. I grew up in athletics and I didnt really have any friends outside [of the sport], so I had a bit of time to just be like: Right, I just want to see if I actually want to do this. After missing out in 2015 I thought: Yeah, I do want to do this.

But its not easy to get back. In 2016 I was injured, not as fit and I wasnt ready. I think 2017 was the start again and feeling like: Ive made it back to the world stage. From then on, it was [a case of]: Try not to miss any opportunities.

The former world under-20 silver medallist has attempted to seize them all and the next big one will be the aim of qualifying for her second Olympics.

I think were going to go all in on the 10,000m and then maybe start to explore marathon options, she says. But were going to have to plan try to run a fast 10,000m. With the way the [World] final was run, qualifying times come into it now. I was lucky last year that I had banked that qualifying time already. Its crazy that I thought about halfway around the [Budapest] race: Oh no, this is going to affect my Olympic qualifying time. Its not going to be quick enough.

All of this is a world away from the club scene in which Warner-Judd grew up and still does her best to remain a part of. She isnt happy that, due to her schedule, there hasnt been the chance to wear the Blackburn Harriers vest on the track this year outside of the British Championships and Highgate Night of the 10,000m PBs. 

Its really important [to stay connected with the clubs], she says. It makes me feel that theres a pathway. I remember watching events like the Olympics on TV with my parents and wondering: How do people qualify for that? Do you just turn up? I never really knew.

When I got to my first British Champs, that was the first sign of it, that there is a development from club to international level.

You just dont know who the next stars are. I bumped into Katie Snowdens parents in Budapest and we were saying who would have thought in 2011 when we went to the world youths that we would both be here [at the World Championships]. Thats incredible.

All of which makes her concerned to see the profile of what used to be massive club events starting to shrink.

Maybe its because Im older now but the English Schools Championships used to seem bigger and it was on TV, she says. Theres just so much now. The BMCs and Highgate are brilliant and Im very appreciative of having that development but they do also clash with events like the county champs, for example. I remember they used to be like a three-day affair and now its a struggle to field full events. It is slightly worrying.

Its a very busy season so its trying to find how you can actually link in with it all. 

Warner-Judd is not exactly twiddling her thumbs away from elite sport, either. At the top her to do list is completing her PhD in regenerative medicine. The focus, then, will fall on hitting that Olympic target, but she will approach it with a healthy sense of perspective.

You always want better and you want to do well. [After Budapest] now Im like: I was right there with a lap to go, next year I can aim for a medal, she says. But I also know not to get carried away. Just because it went well this year doesnt mean it will go well next year. 

I loved it [the 10,000m final]. That was the most fun Ive ever had and it makes all the tough times worth it. There have definitely been a couple of years when Ive felt like: This sucks. I hate it. But I think, if you take the pressure off and you think about the root of why you do it, then you just remember why you enjoy it.

She adds: I love NFL and I was watching a documentary about it where [renowned quarterback] Tom Brady said: The fun ended up being the best part of my career and that really resonated with me, she adds. The fun is the best part. You spend weeks, months, years working towards something and if youre not careful youre like: Im going to build up for the next thing. But it should be just enjoy where youve come from and enjoy the process.

Its been a long ride. Even when I was 11, I wanted to win races. Ive always wanted to win.

Its horrible, its stressful, its scary so youve got to enjoy it. Otherwise, whats the point? Running has always been a part of my life and I think it always will be. The fact Im pretty good at it is just a bonus.